Comments on: The dark side of photosharing sites? http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/ Camera, Action, and Light - Photography by Ed Zawadzki Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:53:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: photonovice.net » Blog Archive » Social Media In My Way http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-1031 photonovice.net » Blog Archive » Social Media In My Way Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:56:44 +0000 http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-1031 [...] lots of negative ones were posted about lack of sharpness and things like that. Yes, sometimes artistic pictures get buried by the opinion of the masses while pretty pictures are highly appreciated. The outcome of [...] [...] lots of negative ones were posted about lack of sharpness and things like that. Yes, sometimes artistic pictures get buried by the opinion of the masses while pretty pictures are highly appreciated. The outcome of [...]

]]> By: F/1.0 » Article » The art of the critique? http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-547 F/1.0 » Article » The art of the critique? Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:00:32 +0000 http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-547 [...] Indigo’s over at Beyond The Obvious this morning got me thinking about photo sharing (seem my earlier article on the subject!), and yet another endangered species in our little art [...] [...] Indigo’s over at Beyond The Obvious this morning got me thinking about photo sharing (seem my earlier article on the subject!), and yet another endangered species in our little art [...]

]]> By: KuanYin http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-388 KuanYin Sun, 02 Sep 2007 06:38:53 +0000 http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-388 well, here is my two-cents worth.. ;-) I'm new to photography, I thought I'd taken some pretty darn good "snapshots" until I saw what other had done. I have a long ways to go. Personally I feel that people are too quick to criticize in a field they know really nothing about, or very little. Just because you have an expensive camera and know how to point and shoot, doesn't make you an expert, so stop knocking somebody else's work. Let me give you and example of un-asked for and stupid criticism...I am a novice sculptress, and the very first bust I've ever done has actually one a few awards, yet a "friend" decided to point out all the things that were "wrong" with it. I never told her that I've won awards for this first piece of my attempt at art. Many people will stop doing, will stop learning, will stop their artistic pursuits because some fool has criticized without knowing a thing about art. Photography is a form of art.... some you will like, some you won't... get on with it and stop acting like you are such a masterful "critic".... well, here is my two-cents worth.. ;-) I’m new to photography, I thought I’d taken some pretty darn good “snapshots” until I saw what other had done. I have a long ways to go.
Personally I feel that people are too quick to criticize in a field they know really nothing about, or very little. Just because you have an expensive camera and know how to point and shoot, doesn’t make you an expert, so stop knocking somebody else’s work. Let me give you and example of un-asked for and stupid criticism…I am a novice sculptress, and the very first bust I’ve ever done has actually one a few awards, yet a “friend” decided to point out all the things that were “wrong” with it. I never told her that I’ve won awards for this first piece of my attempt at art. Many people will stop doing, will stop learning, will stop their artistic pursuits because some fool has criticized without knowing a thing about art. Photography is a form of art…. some you will like, some you won’t… get on with it and stop acting like you are such a masterful “critic”….

]]> By: Link Roundup 08-24-07 | Epic Edits Weblog http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-355 Link Roundup 08-24-07 | Epic Edits Weblog Sat, 25 Aug 2007 07:10:42 +0000 http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-355 [...] The Dark Side of Photosharing Sites? f/1.0 Are sites like Flickr destroying the appreciation of photography as an art form? an unbiased analysis… [...] [...] The Dark Side of Photosharing Sites? f/1.0 Are sites like Flickr destroying the appreciation of photography as an art form? an unbiased analysis… [...]

]]> By: kriz cpec http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-339 kriz cpec Thu, 23 Aug 2007 04:14:04 +0000 http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-339 I wonder if the cause to this is that the cameras price tags drop lower and lower, and it's becoming a norm that mobile phones equip with camera/video recording functions, the Net is a perfect platform for sharing one's photos - whatever quality they are off - and when everyone who owns a camera do the same, we have too many photos to look at, as a result, fewer people would look at that world of photos seriously - to say what's good/bad about each of the photos is terribly time-consuming, and the effort might not be appreciated. Too many photos uploaded to the NET hourly, and it's hard to guess the one behind the camera like his/ her photos being commented (in-depth), so the easy way out is to write single-word-comment if any photo's particularly eye-catching, else people do nothing. ... I wonder if the cause to this is that the cameras price tags drop lower and lower, and it’s becoming a norm that mobile phones equip with camera/video recording functions, the Net is a perfect platform for sharing one’s photos - whatever quality they are off - and when everyone who owns a camera do the same, we have too many photos to look at, as a result, fewer people would look at that world of photos seriously - to say what’s good/bad about each of the photos is terribly time-consuming, and the effort might not be appreciated. Too many photos uploaded to the NET hourly, and it’s hard to guess the one behind the camera like his/ her photos being commented (in-depth), so the easy way out is to write single-word-comment if any photo’s particularly eye-catching, else people do nothing.
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]]> By: Eric http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-332 Eric Wed, 22 Aug 2007 02:07:21 +0000 http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-332 There's never been a shortage of mediocre media (music, novels, photography, paintings, etc.) and there never will be. Over the past few decades as poorer and poorer excuses for music are more readily available and harder to hide from, good composition, lyrics, and talent are still recognizable when they are present. Think of Flickr and other sites as a radio for photography. I know when I turn on my radio to the closest commercial frequency I won't find "art." We are just beginning to be exposed to everyone's personal photography; some will shine others won't. And there will always be the "critic" who will pick The Ramones over Vivaldi. There’s never been a shortage of mediocre media (music, novels, photography, paintings, etc.) and there never will be. Over the past few decades as poorer and poorer excuses for music are more readily available and harder to hide from, good composition, lyrics, and talent are still recognizable when they are present. Think of Flickr and other sites as a radio for photography. I know when I turn on my radio to the closest commercial frequency I won’t find “art.” We are just beginning to be exposed to everyone’s personal photography; some will shine others won’t. And there will always be the “critic” who will pick The Ramones over Vivaldi.

]]> By: Ed Z http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-331 Ed Z Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:59:04 +0000 http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-331 Richard - yes, that's very true. I intentionally did not address that since I did not want to get off on a tangent regarding the legality/morality of his actions. I believe that after the intital discussion, the OP revealed and labeled the picture, crediting HCB. I'm not a copyright lawyer, so I have no ideas as to the legality of it but in the end he was not really trying to pass it off as his own photo, just using it to illustrate a point. Richard - yes, that’s very true. I intentionally did not address that since I did not want to get off on a tangent regarding the legality/morality of his actions.

I believe that after the intital discussion, the OP revealed and labeled the picture, crediting HCB. I’m not a copyright lawyer, so I have no ideas as to the legality of it but in the end he was not really trying to pass it off as his own photo, just using it to illustrate a point.

]]> By: Richard http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-330 Richard Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:53:50 +0000 http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-330 I'm more concerned with that fact that a Cartier Bresson image was ripped off and posted on Flickr. I’m more concerned with that fact that a Cartier Bresson image was ripped off and posted on Flickr.

]]> By: Ed Z http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-329 Ed Z Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:47:54 +0000 http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-329 Trevor - Good thing for me, huh? now everyone can see my crappy photos AND read my crappy writing! :-) Jim -you raise an interesting point about the evolution of tastes... I suppose it's similar to the impressionists who were dismissed by their colleagues as amateurs and dabblers, and now are regarded as some of the finest artists... It will be interesting to watch this revolution as well, and see how it changes the artistic landscape. In the meantime I will keep making pretty pictures, and maybe someday I will make "Art" ! Trevor - Good thing for me, huh? now everyone can see my crappy photos AND read my crappy writing! :-)

Jim -you raise an interesting point about the evolution of tastes… I suppose it’s similar to the impressionists who were dismissed by their colleagues as amateurs and dabblers, and now are regarded as some of the finest artists…

It will be interesting to watch this revolution as well, and see how it changes the artistic landscape.

In the meantime I will keep making pretty pictures, and maybe someday I will make “Art” !

]]> By: Jim Goldstei http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-328 Jim Goldstei Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:29:25 +0000 http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-328 That Flickr thread is pretty amusing. Did someone say "HDR"? LOL If you missed it check my blog. Its a sad day when classics aren't recognized, but it doesn't surprise me that there is this kind of reaction. For each era there is a unique style that is appreciated because its never been seen. There is an evolution to this. Each generation of viewer comes to expect more than the last. Over time whst was once unique and different is just ho-hum. Photo enthusiasts now have more opportunity to see a variety of imagery these days. The good... I'd that we can see a lot of work easily. The bad... Is clearly as a result its easier for us to become jaded. The ugly... Is surely that many novices are completely oblivious to the classics as is the Flickr example you've pointed out. That Flickr thread is pretty amusing. Did someone say “HDR”? LOL If you missed it check my blog.
Its a sad day when classics aren’t recognized, but it doesn’t surprise me that there is this kind of reaction. For each era there is a unique style that is appreciated because its never been seen. There is an evolution to this. Each generation of viewer comes to expect more than the last. Over time whst was once unique and different is just ho-hum. Photo enthusiasts now have more opportunity to see a variety of imagery these days. The good… I’d that we can see a lot of work easily. The bad… Is clearly as a result its easier for us to become jaded. The ugly… Is surely that many novices are completely oblivious to the classics as is the Flickr example you’ve pointed out.

]]> By: Photowalking Trevor http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-327 Photowalking Trevor Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:21:41 +0000 http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-327 I think this question could also be asked of "writers" having access to publishing platforms like blogging. Now there's less keeping a crappy author from being read. However, for both, if no one looks/reads, then you'll never know who they were. I think this question could also be asked of “writers” having access to publishing platforms like blogging. Now there’s less keeping a crappy author from being read.

However, for both, if no one looks/reads, then you’ll never know who they were.

]]> By: emma http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-325 emma Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:59:38 +0000 http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-325 Spot on! Agree 100%. Spot on! Agree 100%.

]]> By: photographyVoter.com http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-324 photographyVoter.com Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:19:02 +0000 http://www.f1point0.com/2007/08/21/the-dark-side-of-photosharing-sites/#comment-324 <strong>The dark side of photosharing sites?...</strong> Are sites like Flickr destroying the appreciation of photography as an art form? a (hopefully) unbiased analysis.... The dark side of photosharing sites?…

Are sites like Flickr destroying the appreciation of photography as an art form? a (hopefully) unbiased analysis….

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